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		<title>By: Fenris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fenris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not know that abortion was not legal.  You have me there.  

I can understand your anger at having beliefs and opinions forced upon you.  Even worse when these beliefs and opinions are subsidized by your own money.  Thanks to white privilege, and the invisible i-pod of white privilege, I have never had others beliefs forced upon me, nor had to pay for them.  I guess I will never know what it is like.  Which is good, considering what history shows what happens when this occurs.

You seem to have a much better grip on reality than me.  And when reality comes knocking on your door, smile and open the door to the sunshine!  Your world view is champion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not know that abortion was not legal.  You have me there.  </p>
<p>I can understand your anger at having beliefs and opinions forced upon you.  Even worse when these beliefs and opinions are subsidized by your own money.  Thanks to white privilege, and the invisible i-pod of white privilege, I have never had others beliefs forced upon me, nor had to pay for them.  I guess I will never know what it is like.  Which is good, considering what history shows what happens when this occurs.</p>
<p>You seem to have a much better grip on reality than me.  And when reality comes knocking on your door, smile and open the door to the sunshine!  Your world view is champion!</p>
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		<title>By: Kateland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kateland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&#039;While abortion is legal”&lt;/em&gt; actually it isn&#039;t but neither is it criminal or illegal. In this country, there are simply no laws governing abortion which suits me just fine. And while there are those who are opposed to abortion for whatever reason it is simply a matter of them following their conscience and not having one.  While I have no problem with the &#039;pro-life&#039; movement following the dictates of their conscience – I object to their attempting to force their values or beliefs on me and work towards criminalizing or limiting anyone else&#039;s freedom of choice to have an abortion or not.  Now, where did you ever get the idea I believe in the subsidization of anything? As for abortion as birth control...well, I thought I already dealt with that one in my post but I would suggest that any woman who would use abortion as birth control method is not necessarily someone who I would encourage to breed in the first place. You maybe, but not me.

Abortion is over-directed towards women and why wouldn&#039;t it be? Fenris, have you ever considered the possibility that a man cannot physically have an abortion? Really, sometimes you take this whole gender equality thingy too far. And well, if you want adoption to appeal to more women perhaps it would have been better if the law hadn&#039;t been changed so adoptees can now unseal their birth records regardless of what their &#039;birth&#039; mother wanted. No one forces abortion on women of colour in Canada, and if my neighbourhood is anything to go by, &#039;women of colour&#039; seem definitely slanted towards having children rather than not. I think you have been reading far too many Americans who have a whole host of issues which simply aren&#039;t relevant to Canadians.

As far as having as many children as I want – well, Fenris, I have been a widow a long time but I have yet to demand anyone other than me to support them so I would suggest your wallet is quite safe from me or mine. And Fenris, holy war. You must be off your meds again or is this your way of signally you want to restart the pogroms against the Jews?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8216;While abortion is legal”</em> actually it isn&#8217;t but neither is it criminal or illegal. In this country, there are simply no laws governing abortion which suits me just fine. And while there are those who are opposed to abortion for whatever reason it is simply a matter of them following their conscience and not having one.  While I have no problem with the &#8216;pro-life&#8217; movement following the dictates of their conscience – I object to their attempting to force their values or beliefs on me and work towards criminalizing or limiting anyone else&#8217;s freedom of choice to have an abortion or not.  Now, where did you ever get the idea I believe in the subsidization of anything? As for abortion as birth control&#8230;well, I thought I already dealt with that one in my post but I would suggest that any woman who would use abortion as birth control method is not necessarily someone who I would encourage to breed in the first place. You maybe, but not me.</p>
<p>Abortion is over-directed towards women and why wouldn&#8217;t it be? Fenris, have you ever considered the possibility that a man cannot physically have an abortion? Really, sometimes you take this whole gender equality thingy too far. And well, if you want adoption to appeal to more women perhaps it would have been better if the law hadn&#8217;t been changed so adoptees can now unseal their birth records regardless of what their &#8216;birth&#8217; mother wanted. No one forces abortion on women of colour in Canada, and if my neighbourhood is anything to go by, &#8216;women of colour&#8217; seem definitely slanted towards having children rather than not. I think you have been reading far too many Americans who have a whole host of issues which simply aren&#8217;t relevant to Canadians.</p>
<p>As far as having as many children as I want – well, Fenris, I have been a widow a long time but I have yet to demand anyone other than me to support them so I would suggest your wallet is quite safe from me or mine. And Fenris, holy war. You must be off your meds again or is this your way of signally you want to restart the pogroms against the Jews?</p>
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		<title>By: Fenris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fenris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a good one for you:

While abortion is legal, which you support, why are those who are religiously opposed to abortion (for a host of reasons, generally dependent upon appeal to scriptures, revelation, or tradition) forced to subsidize this practice?  Must co-existence with abortion always include forced tithes from non-supporters?  Your boundary conditions, while good math, are not real politics.  It is not just abortion, it is abortion-with-taxes.  Remove the mandatory financial support for abortion from the backs of the electorate, and this issue will go away.  Hmmm?

Do also include the Mordor alliance of leftist causes.  A crisp Heil Hitler support for abortion, abortion-with-taxes, is a loyalty test for acceptance into this higher than average income bracket, with over representation in the socialist social services sector.  Their is a diversity of factions in the alliance.  Your uttered support for abortion must also include the usual suspects: support for Global Warming, support for the red or orange party, support for whatever.  So penetrating is the alliance of Left-Mordor, that they have penetrated the media, academia, and the bureaucracy.  Alternatives, scandals, and innovation are no longer on the table of dialogue for abortion.  It is either abortion-taxation or you are a racist, rapist, heteronormative scum.

I wonder to what extent the suppressed scandals, walled up in the basements of the main stream media, would have on both your thinking and that of the taxpayer collective of the working class, if the media had done its job and reported them, as they occurred, in the past.  Toronto still sees back street abortions; abortion is done for birth control; abortion is over-directed against women and people of color; abortioneers are corrupt, incompetent, bury their mistakes, and hide evidence; abortion kills viable babies. 

So, while I have seen many of these &#039;why I differ from the non-left and support abortion&#039;, generally as part of a job application package for a high paying, high pension, low effort job in those many agencies, bureaucracies, or departments in the control of the left, it is also tied up to other, larger issues, like endemic leftist corruption, deception, and bankrupt ideas.

You can abort all the children you want, dear.  Do not make me pay for it.  When you make me do something against my religious beliefs, this is no longer a matter of polite civics, but one of religious oppression, leading to holy war.  The left accords this courtesy to some religious groups, the left advocates this to its activists that they do not have to pay for things they dislike, like defense budgets or police pensions.  The precedent is there, right? er, left?

When the activists swarmed my high school, back when I was a youth, they said that abortion was not for birth control, would not apply to a viable fetus, and would end the horror of back street abortions.  Instead, we now have abortion for birth control, viable babies are butchered, abortions are merrily done in back streets, and, lo and behold, there are scads of thousands of high paying activist jobs directly and indirectly dependent the existence of this policy.  When you utter an iota about abortion, you align yourself with the diversity of the Borg collective of the left.  Abortion becomes abortion-taxation.

I do not have the wisdom of Solomon, the Turkish sultan. I respect your opinion. The left has bundled and defined this issue into their &#039;bundle of sticks tied together&#039; program.  However, lacking Occam&#039;s razor and a philosopher-barber to clarify the problem, I suspect that the guillotine will have to be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a good one for you:</p>
<p>While abortion is legal, which you support, why are those who are religiously opposed to abortion (for a host of reasons, generally dependent upon appeal to scriptures, revelation, or tradition) forced to subsidize this practice?  Must co-existence with abortion always include forced tithes from non-supporters?  Your boundary conditions, while good math, are not real politics.  It is not just abortion, it is abortion-with-taxes.  Remove the mandatory financial support for abortion from the backs of the electorate, and this issue will go away.  Hmmm?</p>
<p>Do also include the Mordor alliance of leftist causes.  A crisp Heil Hitler support for abortion, abortion-with-taxes, is a loyalty test for acceptance into this higher than average income bracket, with over representation in the socialist social services sector.  Their is a diversity of factions in the alliance.  Your uttered support for abortion must also include the usual suspects: support for Global Warming, support for the red or orange party, support for whatever.  So penetrating is the alliance of Left-Mordor, that they have penetrated the media, academia, and the bureaucracy.  Alternatives, scandals, and innovation are no longer on the table of dialogue for abortion.  It is either abortion-taxation or you are a racist, rapist, heteronormative scum.</p>
<p>I wonder to what extent the suppressed scandals, walled up in the basements of the main stream media, would have on both your thinking and that of the taxpayer collective of the working class, if the media had done its job and reported them, as they occurred, in the past.  Toronto still sees back street abortions; abortion is done for birth control; abortion is over-directed against women and people of color; abortioneers are corrupt, incompetent, bury their mistakes, and hide evidence; abortion kills viable babies. </p>
<p>So, while I have seen many of these &#8216;why I differ from the non-left and support abortion&#8217;, generally as part of a job application package for a high paying, high pension, low effort job in those many agencies, bureaucracies, or departments in the control of the left, it is also tied up to other, larger issues, like endemic leftist corruption, deception, and bankrupt ideas.</p>
<p>You can abort all the children you want, dear.  Do not make me pay for it.  When you make me do something against my religious beliefs, this is no longer a matter of polite civics, but one of religious oppression, leading to holy war.  The left accords this courtesy to some religious groups, the left advocates this to its activists that they do not have to pay for things they dislike, like defense budgets or police pensions.  The precedent is there, right? er, left?</p>
<p>When the activists swarmed my high school, back when I was a youth, they said that abortion was not for birth control, would not apply to a viable fetus, and would end the horror of back street abortions.  Instead, we now have abortion for birth control, viable babies are butchered, abortions are merrily done in back streets, and, lo and behold, there are scads of thousands of high paying activist jobs directly and indirectly dependent the existence of this policy.  When you utter an iota about abortion, you align yourself with the diversity of the Borg collective of the left.  Abortion becomes abortion-taxation.</p>
<p>I do not have the wisdom of Solomon, the Turkish sultan. I respect your opinion. The left has bundled and defined this issue into their &#8216;bundle of sticks tied together&#8217; program.  However, lacking Occam&#8217;s razor and a philosopher-barber to clarify the problem, I suspect that the guillotine will have to be used.</p>
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